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# Re: Database Editors

- Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 09:36:44 PDT
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- In-Reply-To: <199509130039.TAA19970@Walden.MO.NET> from "Timothy Brown" at Sep 12, 95 05:39:14 pm

    Timothy Brown drew these hieroglyphs:
    >
    > This was not my original intent in database editors.  I'm mainly looking
    > for a neat MS-DOS interface that I can _directly_ edit a database, specifically
    > @creating rooms (yes, I know that's a core command, don't lecture me please)
    > but in the general sense, it seems like a Good Thing (tm).  If your database
    > is so insecure that it is easily accessible by ftp or something similar then
    > you shouldn't be running a MOO anyway.  A database editor seems to me like
    > the answer to a lot of simple MOO administration commands.  Have you ever
    > seen Merc's Windows area editor for Merc/CircleMUD?  It is one sweet piece
    > of coding.  I'm not sayign that something like that could be similarly useful
    > for MOO editing but the idea is the same -- if you need to add an escape code
    > to somewhere in the DB for example or something similar, or you want to do
    > a big chunk of coding on your local machine with a fullscreen editor (don't
    > lecture me on mud.el and local editing macros present in some MOOs/Tinyfugue
    > stuff)...

    The @create command goes through a whole host of interactions with
    other objects as well as the newly created object.  An editor would
    not call :initialize() on an object, or $recycler:_create, or in the
    case of rooms, create and link exits.  If you want to do all that,
    well, you're re-inventing LambdaMOO.  And why not lecture you on
    mud.el and tf?  MOO is geared specifically toward on-line creation and
    programming, and you're looking to take it off-line.  Not a big
    priority for the average MOO programmer.

    > What i'm saying is it could possibly be a worthwhile utility to right if it
    > had some cool features in it.  Naturally, it'd need to use parts of code from
    > the LambdaMOO Server perhaps, but even this would be Something of Dubious
    > Utility (tm) that i'd like to see someday.

    Perhaps of utility to you.  I personally can't see any use for it.
    Now if you can program a windows client that creates MOO code scripts
    for area creation, THAT would be the niftiest thing since
    $sliced_bread.

    chuck
    imagining that he'll be logging onto E_MOO to find someone did this:

    @@corelog #0.sliced_bread
    Added this really nifty property.
    .

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