[686] in Coldmud discussion meeting
Re: assignment operator
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fri Mar 10 01:48:17 1995
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 95 22:42:52 -0800
From: jsp@betz.biostr.washington.edu (Jeff Prothero)
To: coldstuff@MIT.EDU
| >
| > < Personally, I'd prefer :=.. It's already used in at least one
| language for
| > < this purpose
| >
| > VMS's DCL (Digital Command Language, aka VMS shell) uses ':==' to
| set symbols
| > (i.e. make an assignment, of sorts).
|
| Yuck, if anything, do NOT use DCL as a base or to get ideas for
| anything. :P
I think these endless squabbles over syntactic minutia
are a good reason to put compilers in-db rather than
inserver, personally :).
For what it's worth:
-> I believe DCL uses both := and :== to mean different
but similar things (some sort of global/local distinction?)
-> I've been using "->" as an assignment operator in
Muq's MUF syntax (RPN, so the variable assigned to
sits on the right ... what's the logic behind putting
the destination on the left in infix languages, anyho?)
and nobody has complained about it yet... several people
have commented favorably. I'd go for <- in this sort of
case, unless += -= etc are being supported... -<- and
+<- and so forth just don't do it for me.
-> One relevant design principle is Zipf's Law: the
most frequently used operators should have the
shortest representations. I think this is one of
the best arguments for using '=' rather than a
digraph.
-> I agree the = / == resemblance is bad. I've been hacking
C pretty solidly since '78, and it _still_ gets me from
time to time. Mostly because I mentally convert from
internal to verbal to typewritten, and the last stage is
done unconciously, and both "=" and "==" get "equals"
as verbal representation. I'm working on saying "gets"
for "=", currently... :)
-> Nobody has suggested Prolog's :- yet. Be a shame to
leave any existing religions out of the debate :)
-> A solution I haven't seen tried is to use '=' for >both<
assignment and comparison, and to keep the contexts in
which they are allowed mutually exclusive. This
wouldn't be impractical, I don't think, although Cfolk
might dislike the restriction. I doubt novice hackers
would.
Cynbe